Comments on: Java developers, there is life outside the container http://tomchikoore.com/2009/10/01/java-developers-there-is-life-outside-the-container/ Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:07:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Richard Metzler http://tomchikoore.com/2009/10/01/java-developers-there-is-life-outside-the-container/comment-page-1/#comment-739 Richard Metzler Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:18:26 +0000 http://tomchikoore.com/?p=171#comment-739 I totally see your point. I have been a Java dev for a very long time but I'm tired of Java and the unnecessary complexity of the API and I was jealous of the simplecity of modern scripting languages like Ruby, Python and JavaScript. That's why I traded my fulltime job for returning to university for getting my MBA and doing some projects for myself. Let me name just 2 examples : File API - in these languages I mentioned reading and writing files is much easier. JSF - it just adds a new level of abstraction onto html. It is actually much easier to build web apps with templates in a small restricted templating language. I totally see your point.

I have been a Java dev for a very long time but I’m tired of Java and the unnecessary complexity of the API and I was jealous of the simplecity of modern scripting languages like Ruby, Python and JavaScript. That’s why I traded my fulltime job for returning to university for getting my MBA and doing some projects for myself.

Let me name just 2 examples :
File API – in these languages I mentioned reading and writing files is much easier.
JSF – it just adds a new level of abstraction onto html. It is actually much easier to build web apps with templates in a small restricted templating language.

]]> By: tomchikoore http://tomchikoore.com/2009/10/01/java-developers-there-is-life-outside-the-container/comment-page-1/#comment-673 tomchikoore Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:24:29 +0000 http://tomchikoore.com/?p=171#comment-673 Yes. I am talking about just standalone java code. Sockets is one example of communication but there are a lot of other examples of java code that runs as standalone programs without the need for a container. Yes. I am talking about just standalone java code. Sockets is one example of communication but there are a lot of other examples of java code that runs as standalone programs without the need for a container.

]]> By: Jonathan Chauncey http://tomchikoore.com/2009/10/01/java-developers-there-is-life-outside-the-container/comment-page-1/#comment-672 Jonathan Chauncey Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:00:32 +0000 http://tomchikoore.com/?p=171#comment-672 After rereading your post I guess what you are getting at is that Java developers tend to write only web applications and have no idea how to write console based apps or apps that interact with other apps on the socket level... Is that what you mean? After rereading your post I guess what you are getting at is that Java developers tend to write only web applications and have no idea how to write console based apps or apps that interact with other apps on the socket level… Is that what you mean?

]]> By: Jonathan Chauncey http://tomchikoore.com/2009/10/01/java-developers-there-is-life-outside-the-container/comment-page-1/#comment-671 Jonathan Chauncey Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:57:16 +0000 http://tomchikoore.com/?p=171#comment-671 What do you mean by "there is a world of Java outside the container". Are you referring to writing web apps that do not run in the standard JEE container or servlet container (tomcat, jboss, weblogic, websphere, glassfish...)? What do you mean by “there is a world of Java outside the container”. Are you referring to writing web apps that do not run in the standard JEE container or servlet container (tomcat, jboss, weblogic, websphere, glassfish…)?

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